Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

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Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by arb83@cam.ac.uk » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:20 pm

Dear Yambo Community Forum

Is it possible to calculate the probability the exciton is in a specific region of the unit cell? i.e. \int_{region}\Xsi(r_{elec},r_{hole})^{2}dr_{elec}dr_{hole}/ \int_{full unit cell}\Xsi(r_{elec},r_{hole})^{2}dr_{elec}dr_{hole}?

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by Daniele Varsano » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:33 pm

Dear Alan,
this quantity is not implemented, but you can do by yourself with an external code by reading the excitonic wave functions e.g. asking them in cube format.

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by arb83@cam.ac.uk » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:18 pm

Dear Daniele

This may be very obvious, but how do I output the full excitonic wavefunction in a cube format? I'm currently only aware of how to output part of the wavefunction with the electron or hole in a fixed position.

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by Daniele Varsano » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:23 pm

Dear Alan,
in your ypp.in file set:

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Format= "c"                  # Output format [(c)ube/(g)nuplot/(x)crysden]
Direction= "123"              # [rlu] [1/2/3] for 1d or [12/13/23] for 2d [123] for 3D
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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by arb83@cam.ac.uk » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:09 pm

Dear Daniele

Within the ypp file I still need to set the hole position. Therefore, am I not outputting the electron wavefunction given that the hole is in a specific position? i.e. I would still need to know the probability of the hole at each position to reproduce the value I am interested in?

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by Daniele Varsano » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:06 pm

Sorry,
I did not get it.
So, no it is not implemented.
What has been recently implemented is the average Psi_exc over the position of the hole (or electron)
\rho_e (r_e) = \int | \psi (r_e, r_h) |^2 d r_h

but this is not in the GPL release (it will be in the next release).
What you aim to do is to collect a 6 variable function and integrate over space, it could be done but it is quite cubersome.
Note that the integral the whole space you indicated should be 1 by normalization condition.

Anyway, maybe you can consider the freehole option which is now implemented defined as:
\Psi_exc(re,rh=re)
essentially it is a transition density.

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by arb83@cam.ac.uk » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:49 am

Dear Daniele

That makes sense, thanks for the clarification. When will the next GPL release be coming out?

In the meantime I realised that I could plot the exciton distribution in 1D as I am only interested in where it is likely to be in the z direction. When I do this with the hole fixed in one position, could you confirm that the output is normalised please? Is there any way to change this (i.e. so I can get something resembling actual probability values)?

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by Daniele Varsano » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:30 pm

Dear Alan,
yes, it should be normalized to the maximum value, i.e. max(wf)=1.
If you do not want this normalization, for the 1D plot, you can change the value of the flag in this subroutine:
/ypp/plotting/plot_gnuplot.F
assigning the l_norm_to_one

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l_norm_to_one=.false.
before this line:

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102      if (l_norm_to_one) v2plot2D=v2plot2D/v_max
About the new release, I cannot tell you a precise date, but it should happen before the end of the year.
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Daniele
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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by arb83@cam.ac.uk » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:40 pm

Dear Daniele

Thank you! One final question - when I remove the normalisation, what are the output values. Is this the sqrt of the probability density, the probability density, or the probability density divided by the probability the hole is in that fixed position?

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Re: Calculating probability exciton is in a specific region

Post by Daniele Varsano » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:46 pm

Dear Alan,
it is a conditional probability: the probability to find an electron given the hole fixed in the position you placed it.

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